Aaron Baart is the Dean of Chapel at Dordt College in Sioux Center, IA. A graduate of Dordt & Regent College, Aaron has also served as the Senior Pastor at Bridge of Hope Ministries in Sioux Center and a church plant in Chilliwack, BC. Together with his wife (author Nicole Baart), they also help lead One Body One Hope. Here Mark Hilbelink of YALT interviews Aaron about ministry, students & the Church.
1. You’ve pastored a church and are now a college chaplain. What are the differences for you?
The biggest difference is coordinating activities and programs. At church I often felt like my primary role was motivating people, encouraging them to get involved, and trying to ignite a fire. At college, I spend more time simply trying to keep up with all the ambitions and dreams the students already have and the fire God has put within them. Here, I spend much less time trying to motivate or inspire vision and more time just trying to keep up. It’s pretty invigorating!
2. You’re pretty young yourself for a college chaplain. What positives & challenges come from your age as a spiritual leader at a college?
The advantage of being a little younger is that hopefully I’m still pretty connected to the cultural issues that they struggle with. For the most part, I can still relate, because it wasn’t all that long ago that I was in their shoes. On the opposite end of the spectrum, the biggest challenge about being young is that at this stage of life I have three young boys at home. My obligations at home keep me away from some of the night activities on campus that I would otherwise really like to be even more a part of.
3. The interaction between campus ministries as a Christian college & local churches can often be pretty ill-defined. Do you think there are students that “count” your ministries as their church and are you okay with that?
I am aware of the movement within this generation to define their spiritual life much more outside the institutional and local church than ever before. For many, this could easily become the events, worship, and fellowship they experience on campus. We try to combat this by making sure that none of our worship activities “take the place of” the local congregational experience. I also try to dialogue periodically with local pastors and ask if they ever feel like we are “stepping on their toes”. Most of the time, they are very encouraging and simply want as many growth opportunities for their college students as can be had.
4. What value do you think local churches have for Christian college students? How do you encourage them to go? How hard to you push?
We encourage them overtly (like mentioning this in Chapel) and also more indirectly through the van shuttle system we provide so they all can access rides to different churches in the area. To me, one of the most compelling reasons why students need a local congregational experience as part of their spiritual formation is that they need to experience inter-generational community. One of our college’s greatest assets is its residential nature (nearly 90% of our students live on campus); however, the potential deficit this creates in terms of spiritual development is that they currently live, eat, study, work, and play with people who look like them, act like them, see the world through the same generational eyes as them, and are overall at the same stage of life as them. When it comes to spiritual growth, we need the wisdom of those who have gone before. We need to interact with families and grandparents and different demographics. We need to change a dirty diaper from time to time! Diversity is one of God’s greatest shaping tools in our growth. For that reason alone, a student’s formation will be jeopardized if they were to never leave campus to darken the door of a local church, expecting everything they need to exist on campus.
5. If you could give a piece of advice to local churches that surround Dordt to help them minister better or enfold your students, what would you say?
One word: food. And I mean that seriously. To share a place at a local family’s table and break bread with them is a great experience for students. Without even being able to articulate it, I think students are starved for the family setting, for the dinner table setting, for the home-cooked food, and the conversation that comes with it. I’ve had great interactions with students when they stayed late to chat at our house after babysitting, when they came to do laundry and watch Sunday afternoon football, when they’ve baked cookies in the kitchen, or simply came for supper.
6. How do you think your ministry would be different if you worked for a public institution? Have you learned some lessons from campus ministers at public universities you’ve used at Dordt?
I think my ministry would be vastly different. At Dordt, Christ is mentioned in every class and openly glorified in every activity. A spiritual life here is not an added appendage to a solid curriculum; rather, it’s interwoven not only through the content of the classes, but in the student activities, the housing set ups, and the meal plans. As a Campus Ministry department I know that I am only one person or one program amidst many others all pulling in the same direction, under one unified vision. As a result, I don’t have to fight what is going on in the classroom as something undermining their faith. Instead, I am working with colleagues to tear down the walls between the sacred and the secular, helping students to see that all of life is lived before the face of God and so all of life is worship.
7. How well do you think most students connect with local churches after graduation? Is there a chance some of them just “drop out” at that point?
I know there are some students who do “drop out” of regular local church involvement after graduation. Some of them come back. Some don’t. There’s some great books out there on the subject right now (see David Kinnaman’s You Lost Me) but I don’t have any hard data to offer regarding our grads.
8. How do you connect the academic and spiritual sides of the Dordt campus? Do you think students get the connection?
I hope that there aren’t academic and spiritual sides to Dordt’s campus. I hope that our very deliberate single campus mind-set makes us distinct in the academic realm. What we are seeking to do is to make sure that this very divide never occurs. We strongly believe we can offer a top-notch academic education, on par with some of the best schools in the country, all the while forming and shaping transformational disciples both in and out of the classroom. I think students really get this. Our CORE curriculum walks them on a journey through the course of 4 years to not only understand, but to celebrate Christ’s lordship over every dominion of this world. From what we see in their understanding when they first come here to what we hear them declare when they leave, I know that they get it. They really get it. And that’s huge encouragement for all of us who are praying and fighting for the next generation of disciples.